Grupo de conservadores católicos diz que o heliocentrismo é uma conspiração

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Some Catholics seek to counter Galileo

Splinter group says the Earth, not the sun, is, indeed, at the center of the universe

By Manya A. Brachear, Tribune reporter














July 4, 2011

Some people believe the world literally revolves around them. It's a belief born not of selfishness but faith.

A
small group of conservative Roman Catholics is pointing to a dozen
biblical verses and the Church's original teaching as proof that the
Earth is the center of the universe, the view that prompted Galileo Galilei's clash with the Church four centuries ago.

The
relatively obscure movement has gained a following among a few
Chicago-area Catholics who find comfort in knowing there are still
staunch defenders of original Church doctrine.

"This subject is, as far as I can see, an embarrassment to the modern
church because the world more or less looks upon geocentrism or someone
who believes it in the same boat as the flat Earth," said James
Phillips, of Cicero.

Phillips attends Our Lady Immaculate Catholic
Church in Oak Park, a parish run by the Society of St. Pius X, a group
that rejects most of the modernizing reforms the Vatican II council made from 1962 to 1965.

But
by challenging modern science, the proponents of a geocentric universe
are challenging the very church they seek to serve and protect.

"I
have no idea who these people are. Are they sincere, or is this a
clever bit of theater?" said Brother Guy Consolmagno, the curator of
meteorites and spokesman for the Vatican Observatory.

Indeed,
those promoting geocentrism argue that heliocentrism, or the
centuries-old consensus among scientists that the Earth revolves around
the sun, is nothing more than a conspiracy theory to squelch the
church's influence.

"Heliocentrism becomes 'dangerous' if it is
being propped up as the true system when, in fact, it is a false
system," said Robert Sungenis, leader of a budding movement to get
scientists to reconsider. "False information leads to false ideas, and
false ideas lead to illicit and immoral actions — thus the state of the
world today. … Prior to Galileo, the church was in full command of the
world; and governments and academia were subservient to her."

Sungenis
is no lone Don Quixote, as illustrated by the hundreds of curiosity
seekers, skeptics and supporters at a conference last fall titled
"Galileo Was Wrong. The Church Was Right" just off the University of
Notre Dame campus in South Bend, Ind.

Astrophysicists
at Notre Dame didn't appreciate the group hitching its wagon to the
prestige of America's flagship Catholic university and resurrecting a
concept that's extinct for a reason.

"It's an idea whose time has
come and gone," astrophysics professor Peter Garnavich said. "There are
some people who want to move the world back to the 1950s when it seemed
like a better time. These are people who want to move the world back to
the 1250s. I don't really understand it at all."

Garnavich said
the theory of geocentrism violates what he believes should be a strict
separation of church and science. One answers why, the other answers
how, and never the twain should meet, he said.

But supporters of
the theory contend that there is scientific evidence to support
geocentrism, just as there is evidence to support the six-day story of
creation in Genesis.

There
is proof in Scripture that the Earth is the center of the universe,
Sungenis said. Among many verses, he cites Joshua 10:12-14 as definitive
proof: "And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, while the nation
took vengeance on its foe. … The sun halted in the middle of the sky;
not for a whole day did it resume its swift course."

But Ken Ham, founder of the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., said the Bible is silent on geocentrism.

"There's
a big difference between looking at the origin of the planets, the
solar system and the universe and looking at presently how they move and
how they are interrelated," Ham said. "The Bible is neither geocentric
or heliocentric. It does not give any specific information about the
structure of the solar system."

Just as Ham challenges the
foundation of natural history museums, Sungenis challenges planetariums,
most notably the Vatican Observatory.

Consolmagno said the very premise of going after Galileo illustrates the theory's lack of scientific credibility.

"Of
course, we understand the universe in a far more nuanced way than
Galileo did 400 years ago," he said. "And I would hope that the next 400
years would see just as much development."

But Sungenis said the
renewed interest in geocentrism is due, in part, to the efforts of
Christians entering the scientific domain previously dominated by
secularists. These Christian scientists, he said, showed modern science
is without scientific foundation or even good evidence.

The issue
has even sparked a debate between Art and Pat Jones, of Lyons. Pat
Jones, a conservative Catholic who often attends Mass at Phillips'
parish, said heliocentrism is part of a conspiracy.

"Because of
our fallen nature in Christian terms, we take the line of least
resistance — go with the flow," said Pat Jones. "But the means of grace
have to be intact."

Her husband, Art, a self-described skeptical
Protestant, says he is still a "doubting Thomas" but wouldn't put it
past the orthodox science community to cook up a conspiracy. He
accompanied his wife to the South Bend conference to learn more and
"keep peace in the family."

Meanwhile, the theory has brought others like Phillips closer to God.

"I
dropped my practice of faith," Phillips said. "When I came back, it was
a big wake-up call for me. … The world has its own dogmas."

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Fernando_Silva

Na Inglaterra, há uma Sociedade da Terra Plana, que defende que a Terra é plana. <br>Foi ela que inspirou o nome da STR.<br><br>http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/<br>;

Reid

Fernando_Silva escreveu:

Na Inglaterra, há uma Sociedade da Terra Plana, que defende que a Terra é plana. <br>Foi ela que inspirou o nome da STR.<br><br>http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/<br>;

<br>A nasa devia dar uma viagem para eles fazerem um passeio no espaço, so de ida mesmo :-))

Fernando_Silva

Reid escreveu:

A nasa devia dar uma viagem para eles fazerem um passeio no espaço, so de ida mesmo :-))

<br><br>Eles dizem que os astronautas tiveram ilusões de ótica.<br>